sbc tpi swap with vortec heads! into 87 cutlass formerly 307

[j_tizzle_84]

gonna use this to track the progess of my sbc tpi swap in my 87 cutlass . please do no bash me for my engine selection. just need facts not opinions. thank you keep up for pics let me know if you need 307 olds parts

[jrm81bu]

You will need the mounts from a monte with a smallblock. Part number 2292 at advance auto.

[j_tizzle_84]

thanks for the quick response

[86Cutlass383SR]

If you need engine mounts, go to AutoZone. I think they have the poly ones in stock. Here's a link to Summit for whar they look like and the part number. http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ENS-3-1116R/

See my signature...been there, doing that again. TPI g-bodies are fun, especially with a manual tranny!

[Doober]

Here to watch

[Doober]

Also, are those the Summit/Flowtech headers?
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-G9005/
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/BIG-11102FLT/

If so have fun routing the exhaust. I bought them hoping to get some ground clearance but went back to the Hooker longtubes I have.



I'll still probably have to swap to some different headers when I bring the car to AZ.

[j_tizzle_84]

yeah thats them hope exhaust shop can get them hooked up. if not guess ill be buying something else.

[regalman4925]

those headers will work fine and they tuck up really well, you have to wrap the drivers side under the oil pan and route both tubes down the passenger side in the factory exhaust location then split in front of the axle. i have that setup for on my 442 and i took the exhuast off my regal with air ride and it never bottomed out even with the frame rails inches from the ground. also saves you from needing a custom transmission deal. i think i paid 300 for my exhuast to be ran with flowmaster 40s on it. i would do it again but i got some headman long tubes for the regal.

[j_tizzle_84]

do you have any pics of the way your exhaust is ran may be big help in getting it ran. this may help the whole keeping the column shift that way.

[pontiacgp]

I tried those "shorty" headers and they are where they belong..in the garbage....if you look at the photo of the drivers side you almost have to bend the pipe 90 degrees to get it to travel in that opening in front of the pan..and then you have to oval that pipe so it will fit in that opening.......instead I installed some full length Hedmans with a ball and socket collector and they are made to give alot of ground clearance

http://www.jegs.com/i/Hedman/500/68608/10002/-1

[regalman4925]

I tried those "shorty" headers and they are where they belong..in the garbage....if you look at the photo of the drivers side you almost have to bend the pipe 90 degrees to get it to travel in that opening in front of the pan..and then you have to oval that pipe so it will fit in that opening.......instead I installed some full length Hedmans with a ball and socket collector and they are made to give alot of ground clearance

i disagree on that one, i would sat those shorys if done right are some of the best fitting i have seen, migth not be the straitest path possible but the benefits of the shorties are there. these pics are of the exhaust hanging in my basement, the pipes are pushed apart up front cause of the way i have it hung but you can get the idea. at first i wasnt happy with them but after the shop was done i was 100% happy with them. those mid length headers are nice also but if you have shorties and do not want to run the dual exhaust cross member then these are a great option.

[j_tizzle_84]

thanks for the pics. just gonna make a dual 2 1/2 to single 3in pipe simalar to what you have at the front. wil worry about true duals after motor is in and steering & suspension is done.
*update*
got block mounts in today. still have to get tpi 700r4 kickdown cable and frame mounts then it going in hopefully around thanksgiving i got a 4 day weekend should be able to get it done.

[j_tizzle_84]

update: was driving home on thursday and trans stopped shifting and started to slip. pulled it that night. when i pulled the converter out the splines on the stator were gone as well as the ones in the conveter. so due to it being so close to christmas. i will rebuild it in the intrest of money. so i figure that since i already have it out i may as well just go a little farther and pull the motor too. so the tpi motor is going in as soon as i get a stall converter, 1 pc rear main 153 tooth flywheel and a 700r4 tpi detent cable. coming real soon tpi 305 with freshly upgraded 2004r. stay tuned!

[j_tizzle_84]

mtor out anyone need olds 307 parts.

[Doober]

I might've been able to use a spare Q-Jet for a rebuild about 10 years ago when I had my '84 Olds Delta 88