My shop build

clean8485

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I will start this thread with a bit of background. I've been a car guy all my life, and a licensed car and truck mechanic for 45 years now. In 1988, my wife and I moved out of our apartment in Toronto Ontario, and moved into a house on a large property about an hours driving time northeast of Toronto. We started our family and raised our kids there, but between work and looking after the property, I didn't have much time to spare. Plus, the property taxes on our home were expensive. By the late 1990s, we were thinking of moving, and I started to tell my wife that when we moved, we were going to downsize, and that I wanted a shop building of my own, so I could work on my cars in a proper heated building, with decent equipment.
Well, in 2021 we moved to smaller property. After we were somewhat settled, I started looking into finding a local builder. I have a friend, who used to own the storage facility where I kept my Monte Carlo for the past few winters. He had sold his home and the storage business (which is located on the same property as his home), and moved closer to where I live. He was in the process of having a storage building put up on his new property during the winter of 2021/2022. I went to look at his building, and was impressed with the quality of the work, so I contacted his builder. We talked about the size of building that I wanted, and what features that I wanted. I was looking for a building that is 30FT square, with 12FT high interior walls, as I'm going to be installing a 2 post electric hoist. I want to have a good electrical setup in the building, with several 220V outlets for various equipment. I want the building to be insulated, as I want to be able to work out there during the winter, and I'm going to be going with in-floor heating. The builder was good with my requirements. I arranged for a building permit.
After waiting for almost a year, due to the backlog of other customers that the builder has, he came and started on the foundation on February 14 of this year (best Valentine present I've ever had!). To this point, the outer concrete frost wall of the foundation has been completed and backfilled. In the great white north here, there are weight restrictions on the roads, to try to stop excessive damage to the pavement during the spring, when the frost is coming out of the ground. Those restrictions start at the beginning of March, so the builder was trying to get all of the work requiring heavy equipment and cement mixers, dump trucks, etc done before March first, which he did. There is a pause on the construction right now, until later this month, when the framing and roof will start. The building won't be completely finished until probably early in the fall. The builder has backfilled inside the foundation wall with sand, and he wants the sand to settle for a few months before he installs the insulation, then the plumbing and steel reinforcement for the floor, and finally pours the concrete for the floor. He wants to minimize any possible issues with the concrete of the floor cracking from be poured before the sand has settled as much as possible.
This past week, I had an opportunity to pick up a good used 10,000lb 2 post electric hoist. One more item off the "to do" list.
Here are some photos of the progress so far.
 

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I would have never dreamed concrete could be poured in February so far north. Also would have figured that frozen ground would fight you, but I guess it helps when it's not buried in butthole deep snow. Sub'd for progress.
 
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It hasn't been a really harsh winter here this year. We would get snow, then it would get mild, and the snow would melt, then repeat. Haven't seen a winter where January and February have been below freezing all month, both months, for a few years now.
 
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It hasn't been a really harsh winter here this year. We would get snow, then it would get mild, and the snow would melt, then repeat. Haven't seen a winter where January and February have been below freezing all month, both months, for a few years now.
At first I was thinking, well, give it time for the frost to thaw because even running a compactor wouldn't help once the frost let go if you compacted level on the frost layer, then went uneven again.

But, if a deep frost never sank into the ground, wouldn't renting a compactor to walk back and forth across the sand let the slab go in months earlier and get the shop closed in mid to late summer, letting you worry about insulating and doing finishing work before the bad weather sets in?
 

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A compactor was run over the sand inside the frost wall, right after the sand was put in there. The rest of the structure should be all finished by sometime in the summer. One of the last things to be finished will be the interior floor. When I inspected the building that he put up for my friend, the building was basically all finished (walls, roof, insulation, interior, wiring, etc) before the floor was completed. Sure, I'd like for it to be finished sooner, but if it means that will last longer, with fewer possible problems, I can wait a bit longer.
 
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Latest bit of progress. Several weeks ago, I was able to pick up a deal on a good used 10,000lb 2 post hoist for the shop. It will get installed sometime in the fall, after the floor is completed and the concrete has cured. Last week, the roof trusses were delivered. No further construction just yet, but the weather is getting milder, and the snow is melting, so I'm hoping things will start again soon. Talked to a company today about having a security system installed in the building. It will be easier to have the wiring for the system done while the building is under construction.
 

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Very nice. Just make sure where the lift is going is thick enough concrete. My buddy had his come out because it wasn’t.
 

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Very nice. Just make sure where the lift is going is thick enough concrete. My buddy had his come out because it wasn’t.
And that the radiant heating is laid out to account for it as well
 

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Very nice. Just make sure where the lift is going is thick enough concrete. My buddy had his come out because it wasn’t.

4" reinforced will do. But the lift manufacturer should have a psi rating for the concrete, just have whoever does the concrete hit that mark. But not the pex tubes in the floor.
 

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Thanks to everyone for your comments. I talked to the hoist dealer. He has told me to leave an area of roughly 14ft by 3ft clear of plumbing for the in-floor heat, and that the minimum concrete thickness should be 5". Also, the concrete must cure for a minimum of 30 days before the hoist is installed.
 
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